Comments on: Amendment to the Manifesto http://vogmae.net.au/vlog/2005/09/amendment-to-the-manifesto/ video blogging, et al. Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:57:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sky Rockets In Flight » Blog Archive » What makes a good video blog (according to those in the know) http://vogmae.net.au/vlog/2005/09/amendment-to-the-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-40154 Sky Rockets In Flight » Blog Archive » What makes a good video blog (according to those in the know) Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:58:54 +0000 http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/09/03/amendment-to-the-manifesto/#comment-40154 [...] After having a squiz at Adrian’s site - I found a handy little manifesto [...] [...] After having a squiz at Adrian’s site – I found a handy little manifesto [...]

]]> By: Gette’s Burg » Vlogging and Texting. Or Just Vlogging. http://vogmae.net.au/vlog/2005/09/amendment-to-the-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-19907 Gette’s Burg » Vlogging and Texting. Or Just Vlogging. Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:32:37 +0000 http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/09/03/amendment-to-the-manifesto/#comment-19907 [...] Miles ( 2005) asks us to see that “a vog explores the proximate distance of words and moving media”. By allowing text and image to coexist in a blog, your work becomes contextualised. Two blog entries experiment with associating text to this video. [...] [...] Miles ( 2005) asks us to see that “a vog explores the proximate distance of words and moving media”. By allowing text and image to coexist in a blog, your work becomes contextualised. Two blog entries experiment with associating text to this video. [...]

]]> By: Matt http://vogmae.net.au/vlog/2005/09/amendment-to-the-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-15059 Matt Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:22:55 +0000 http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/09/03/amendment-to-the-manifesto/#comment-15059 I'm not sure I agree with numbers nine and ten, if only because I think it's sort of futile to cite specific examples (specific examples, no less, who are filmmakers working for the most part with a mind to have material projected to an audience in a darkened cinema!) and, what's more, specific equipment. I mean, you could just as soon say "a vog is Jonas Mekas with Windows and a Wi-Fi." It seems sort of pointless, although I do see what you're getting at, and I understand what you're saying. There's another difference too though, and that's that Godard, Vertov and Mekas (and others; c.f. Greenaway) are far more conscious of their reinvention of cinematic form. The vast majority of vloggers seem to me to be unconscious of what they're doing--even though, I agree, they are doing it. You, Adrian, are one of the only vloggers I know of who I would call fully conscious of his formal experimentation (I'd appreciate some links to others though!) and even then I wouldn't compare you to artists like Godard or Vertov, but rather to someone like Eadweard Muybridge! But maybe that's just me. I’m not sure I agree with numbers nine and ten, if only because I think it’s sort of futile to cite specific examples (specific examples, no less, who are filmmakers working for the most part with a mind to have material projected to an audience in a darkened cinema!) and, what’s more, specific equipment. I mean, you could just as soon say “a vog is Jonas Mekas with Windows and a Wi-Fi.” It seems sort of pointless, although I do see what you’re getting at, and I understand what you’re saying.

There’s another difference too though, and that’s that Godard, Vertov and Mekas (and others; c.f. Greenaway) are far more conscious of their reinvention of cinematic form. The vast majority of vloggers seem to me to be unconscious of what they’re doing–even though, I agree, they are doing it. You, Adrian, are one of the only vloggers I know of who I would call fully conscious of his formal experimentation (I’d appreciate some links to others though!) and even then I wouldn’t compare you to artists like Godard or Vertov, but rather to someone like Eadweard Muybridge!

But maybe that’s just me.

]]> By: Ali b http://vogmae.net.au/vlog/2005/09/amendment-to-the-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-15048 Ali b Sat, 03 Sep 2005 09:18:23 +0000 http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/09/03/amendment-to-the-manifesto/#comment-15048 video, ahem, should read: networked, digital video :/ video, ahem, should read: networked, digital video :/

]]> By: Ali b http://vogmae.net.au/vlog/2005/09/amendment-to-the-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-15047 Ali b Sat, 03 Sep 2005 09:17:15 +0000 http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/09/03/amendment-to-the-manifesto/#comment-15047 maybe you should make an Ezedia qt essay about your manifesto? that would be cool. and you'd also get an idea of what its like to actually write/shoot/edit/compose one of these new fandangled essays :) what exactly do you mean by performative video/audio here? is it that the content is produced specifically for vogged/networked environments/interfaces, or is it something to do with the malleable materiality of video (allowing others manipulate it)? maybe you should make an Ezedia qt essay about your manifesto? that would be cool. and you’d also get an idea of what its like to actually write/shoot/edit/compose one of these new fandangled essays :)

what exactly do you mean by performative video/audio here? is it that the content is produced specifically for vogged/networked environments/interfaces, or is it something to do with the malleable materiality of video (allowing others manipulate it)?

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